DangerousR6
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Those that were lost on that day...
Never Forget..
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Every September 11th I spend the day thinking about the kid I used to play Little League baseball with. He grew up to be a partner at Cantor Fitzgerald in the World Trade Center. RIP Peter Gelinas.
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I turned 16 on 9/11. Everybody keeps telling me I have an "unfortunate birthday," as though it were my fault. :tard:
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I spent yesterday thinking of the people I worked with that were lost that day.
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I was supposed to be hearing a lecture on skyscrapers in arch. history when we heard the news, t'was a somber day.
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Well my birthday's not on the 11th, but it is exactly one week before on the 4th.. But you are exactly right, it had nothing to do with you. Now your birthday just happens to be on one of the most infamous days in American history..John St. Jelly said:
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Remembering those that were lost on 9-11-2001...
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Sad how little coverage of it we're getting this year. One of the worst events in our history seems to be getting glossed over in favor of the Kardashian's baby. Very sad.
I spend every 9/11 thinking of a friend's mother who was in a job interview in one of the lower floors in the South Tower. She escaped, but will never be the same.
I spend every 9/11 thinking of a friend's mother who was in a job interview in one of the lower floors in the South Tower. She escaped, but will never be the same.
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It's not glossed over, it's 12 years ago. There are probably some people who don't like to be reminded, even. It's becoming a part of our history rather than a part of our present, like D-Day and so on. The coverage is becoming more muted and respectful.
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It may be 12 years ago, and if it were a normal tragedy like a hurricane, earthquake or volcano, then it would still be a painful memory but you'd get past it. Natural disasters are innocent. This wasn't. It was malicious, and the attitudes that drove it still exist. It's tough to reconcile. Then, it's not helped by the fact that the attack was irrational. There's little defense against that sort of thing. When an adversary is unreasonable, there's not much to work with. Makes it extra-scary, and makes it tough to lower your guard. Especially when the threat is ongoing.
For as hard as we hit back after 9/11, it wasn't nearly enough. The targets were probably wrong, and the real problem was a lack of will to exert as much force as was needed. The only way to win a fight is to either eliminate your enemy altogether, or overpower them to such an overwhelming degree that they lose their will to fight. We did neither. We never do. Somehow, all we do is spend money we don't have making a mess of things, then even more money fixing it after the fact.
If it was me in charge of the most powerful military dog in the world, I'd be mighty cautious about unchaining the thing. But, once it got to that point, let the pros handle it. Get the politicians out of the way. Tell the dog to sic 'em, and stand back. Wouldn't take any time at all, and the problem would be solved. Then, let whoever's left rebuild however they want. I wouldn't help them wipe away a single tear. They screwed up, it's up to them to reconcile, not us.
For as hard as we hit back after 9/11, it wasn't nearly enough. The targets were probably wrong, and the real problem was a lack of will to exert as much force as was needed. The only way to win a fight is to either eliminate your enemy altogether, or overpower them to such an overwhelming degree that they lose their will to fight. We did neither. We never do. Somehow, all we do is spend money we don't have making a mess of things, then even more money fixing it after the fact.
If it was me in charge of the most powerful military dog in the world, I'd be mighty cautious about unchaining the thing. But, once it got to that point, let the pros handle it. Get the politicians out of the way. Tell the dog to sic 'em, and stand back. Wouldn't take any time at all, and the problem would be solved. Then, let whoever's left rebuild however they want. I wouldn't help them wipe away a single tear. They screwed up, it's up to them to reconcile, not us.
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The problem is, when your enemy is terrorism, that's not a place you can just bomb into a crater.
The real weapon of terrorism is fear - they don't have armies, or fighter jets, or whatever. The way they can win is by making their threat appear larger than it actually is. Look at the last 12 years. Boy did they win. People think that terrorism is something they actually need to worry about killing them.
Someone actually did the math - in the months after 9/11 there were many, many extra car journeys due to fear of terrorism on flights. There were 1,595 extra road deaths that wouldn't have happened if 9/11 hadn't happened - that's more than half as many again as were killed on the day. Killed by fear. So... who do you bomb to fix that?
The real weapon of terrorism is fear - they don't have armies, or fighter jets, or whatever. The way they can win is by making their threat appear larger than it actually is. Look at the last 12 years. Boy did they win. People think that terrorism is something they actually need to worry about killing them.
Someone actually did the math - in the months after 9/11 there were many, many extra car journeys due to fear of terrorism on flights. There were 1,595 extra road deaths that wouldn't have happened if 9/11 hadn't happened - that's more than half as many again as were killed on the day. Killed by fear. So... who do you bomb to fix that?
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I hope I'm not coming across as disrespectful, it was a ghastly thing and the day itself is as clear in my memory as if it was yesterday. The world was a different place before it and will never be the same.
