Forgive my ignorance, KG. -To me, all that over there under "the thumb" seems like "the Detroit area" to me. -My daughter has been living in Ann Arbor for ~the past year and a half, and I've been over there maybe eight or nine times, so I'm still a little enamored with the town. -Fun place to visit, but I sure wouldn't like to deal with that cost of living; my kids' studio rent is about as much as my 3-bedroom ranch's monthly mortgage payment. :doh: