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still in my quest for a versatile pickup combination ...

what would be a good versatile combination of a humbucker/single coil combo?

say on a tele - a la albert collins. humbucker on the neck and a single coil on the bridge.

something which sounds good individually as well combined. also maybe split coil on the humbucker combined with the single coil as well.

so humbucker alone.

single coil alone.

humbucker/single coil combo.

split single coil/single coil combo.

 
Well... I have ordered a walnut Thinline with humbucker neck, tele bridge. What I've decided to do (although I haven't gone down the street and bought the pickups yet) is go with a Seymour Duncan '59 in the neck and the Joe Barden Tele bridge. I have several friends with 59's in their guitars and they all sound good. I've played some Barden-equipped guitars and I'm not sold on them being the holy grail that some claim they are, but the bridge can definitely give me all the twangy spank I need as well as mellow out with the tone rolled down. I'm not sure how good the 59 will sound in split mode, but I'm planning on getting the 4-conductor model so I can try it out eventually.

Another option I considered was Barden HB Two-Tone in the neck. The Barden Two-Tones sound awesome... it sounds like a big, full humbucker in humbucker mode, and a Strat single-coil in it's tapped mode (but still without the noise). Just too expensive though.

The one thing I'm not excited about is that the Bardens just look kind of cheap. It's weird, but something about the plastic used on the top looks cheap, thin, and glossy. Then the sides are left uncovered, which can look cheap if they're mounted too high.

Ugh... this is a great question. I won't be able to share the results of my decision for about 2 months (when my body and neck get here).
 
If you want to play a majority of music made nowadays in a cover band and get the tones close - using only ONE guitar - it's important to have the humbucker at the bridge. You can fake it with Fender's Eric Clapton active mid-boost circuit, but it's still not a humbucker... If you use a relatively high-powered humbucker (HB) and split the coils, you have a single-coil (SC) bridge pickup, for "Tele" twang and Strat bite. If you want to get the right SRV/Hendrix/Eric Johnson tone, you need a single coil at the neck - or a split HB. The problem there is magnetic pull - if you put a HB pickup in the neck position that's powerful enough to work effectively when split, the magnets may pull on your strings killing some sustain and tone. There are a lot of noiseless, neck SC options that'll at least get close to a great SC sound. Here's what I did for an all-in-one bar band guitar:

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The Bill Lawrence L500XL bridge pickup is plenty powerful enough that the split-coil sounds are authentic, and the neck L280 pickup is a stacked noiseless design that still nails the "Little Wing" tone. The five-way Superswitch lets me choose either of the HB coils, or both coils in parallel, series or out-of-phase. Each pickup has a concentric tone/volume control, so I can balance in varying amounts of either pickup to the other by leaving the three-way in the middle - the normal Gibson four-knob arrangement. It took me a few rewires to get the capacitors right but there's nothing about it I'd change now.

What it won't do is a really mushy neck HB sound - I guess I could put a towel over the speaker - or the sometimes-useful Strat quacky stuff made by two single coils (one middle) wired together. My SC - split HB combinations are too far apart to quack. :-\ It's not a sound that appeal to me enough to sweat over, even thought Mark Knopfler (and many others) has made great use of them. If I ever have to play "Lay Down Sally" or similar quacky stuff, I just use the single coil from the L500 furthest from the bridge and mute... if I had to play in a funk band I'd need quack, but I'd get out of that gig, I suspect. :icon_biggrin:

There are lots of options, and only other guitarists even care what you do - ask any groupie, "All electric guitars sound alike...." My only rule is that you can always cut clarity, sustain and volume coming out of a guitar, but if you try to add sustain or treble to a fundamentally mushy sound using electronics you're going to be adding a high percentage of noise-to-tone.
 
Well, I guess it depends on what kind of versatility you want. For a top-40 cover band, I'd agree humbucker in the bridge will probably take you further. Better yet, I'd recommend getting a cheap Strat (replace the pickups if you need to) and then any warm guitar with humbuckers. Two is better than one! Then you always have a spare just in case. When something breaks or craps out, nearly no one in the audience will care that you are playing a Nickelback (excuse me, I just threw up in my mouth a bit there) song with a Strat.

I nearly went with a single coil neck and humbucker bridge in my thinline project. Thought about doing Lace Sensors with a dually in the bridge. Some might argue that Lace Sensors aren't as expressive as classic single coils, but boy do they sound good. And with the ability to mix "colors" in the dually, you could get a huge array of sounds.
 
I have a Benedetto PAF Neck and 2  P90 types - both humbucker sized.

Middle Gibson P-94
Bridge ( Harmonic Designs Z-90 to be accurate)  it's a wonderful combination

5 way switch 1 vol 1 tone
 
My next build will have SD split rail/p-90 humbuckers and a five way switch.  Single Bridge, Humbucker Bridge, Humbucker Bridge and Neck, Neck humbucker, Single Neck.
 
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