googled roasted wood

[Rick]

Benefits of Roasted Wood Necks

Roasted Woods Have A Clearer Tone & More Resonance.

Adds Stability & Increases Resistance To Warping.
roasted wood has:

Resistance To Temperature & Humidity Changes.

Reduces Density While Maintaining Stiffness For A Lighter Wood.

Similar To Naturally Aged Woods With Lower Moisture Content.

No Need Hazardous Chemical Treatments.

http://www.lipeguitars.com/roasted.html

I'm sold.  If in the next build (probably in 5 years!) I'm getting a non-exotic neck it'll be roasted, hopefully by then they'll have figured out how to roast mahogany, or some other interesting wood. 

 

[stratamania]

Also search for thermo treatment Finland, you'll find they have been doing this type of thing for 20 years.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

I'd tap the breaks on the resonance claims. My buzzword alarm went off.  I have no experience to refute the claim, however resonance and sustain are inversely proportional.  More resonance = less sustain andvice versa.  They wwould never say a roasted neck sustains less, but indirectly they did. Wrap it up with the "warm" bow...bam! 

I would expect a regular a roasted maple neck to sound like a non roasted maple neck with the advantages relating to feel and sstability.

 

[Cagey]

I couldn't agree with you more. "Resonance" is one of those terms the guitar community has adopted and changed the meaning of, sorta like "tremolo" vs. "vibrato" or "vintage" vs. "crap".

 

[Rick]

I've got to compare roasted and non roasted necks.  It makes sense to me that there will be more resonance as I understand the word. The way I envision it is the Xylem layer ( or whatever you call the pores that move sap, or used to move sap) have the  sap, or sugars  totally driven out leaving totally empty pores, so like a chambered body git there's more room for the sound to bounce around.  Have I drunk the koolaide? arty07:

 

[bagman67]

My guess is you'll get the neck, and whether it's for the reasons the marketeers suggest or unrelated ones, you'll be happy with it.  Warmoth don't sell junk.

 

[Cagey]

I have one I haven't even fretted yet and I already love it.

 

[musicispeace]

Got one to finish a lingering project and it smells fantastic.

 

[Fat Pete]

Waiting for mine.

Waiting

Waiting

 

[rgand]

I have a roasted maple neck on my Strat. It replaced a maple/rosewood neck so there's no good comparison to standard maple. BUT! I love this neck for feel and tone. I do intend to work it down some with super fine sandpaper next time I change strings. I expect that to make it even nicer.

I'll get another one next time I work over a guitar. Like, when I delve into my Tele... :cool01:

 

[MikeW]

Speaking of roasted Maple, I got the chance to play a Guthrie Govan Strat at the NAMM last weekend. Wow. Roasted Maple is really nice. Smooth, bright, articulate and slick. There was a little burnishing done on the one that I played and it was very nice. I think I'll have to include it on the short list when I'm thinking of neck woods next time around.

I'm thinking that a Roasted Maple/Ebony would really be a nice neck.

 

[Cagey]

I'm thinking that a Roasted Maple/Ebony would really be a nice neck.

No doubt. But, one of the nice things about roasted Maple is the lack of a need for finish, so if you're like me and always wanted a Maple fretboard but didn't like the feel of a finish under your fingers or its uneven wear patterns, it's a great way to go. I doubt there'd be much difference in the character of the neck between the two we're talking about, but sometimes you want dark and sometimes light 'boards to match up better with the body.

 

[rgand]

I've also thought that ebony would be nice with roasted maple when a darker wood with a bright tone is in order to match the guitar.

As another idea, I make what's called vinegaroon for dying harness leather black. It makes the richest black because it doesn't dye anything. Instead, it turns the tannic acid in the leather black. Wood has a degree of that in it and the vinegaroon does turn it darker. I wonder how a darker yet roasted maple would look?

Below is an example of a leather knife I made with the handle before and after applying the vinegaroon to it. The sheath is also done with vinegaroon. I would love to get a scrap of the roasted maple to try this on before jumping forward with a whole neck. On the other hand, it might make a great way to darken a to-be clear-coated body.

 

[Cagey]

There's some discussion/experimentation with chemically altering the wood rather than staining it here and here if you're interested. It involves potassium dichromate, and does what you describe - brings out the tannins.

It's more than a little bit toxic so you have to take some precautions, but it works well. Thing is, it's not a universal method. It only works with woods that are heavy in tannins such as Mahogany, Oak, or Cherry. Maple will just laugh at the stuff.

 

[rgand]

There's some discussion/experimentation with chemically altering the wood rather than staining it here and here if you're interested. It involves potassium dichromate, and does what you describe - brings out the tannins.

It's more than a little bit toxic so you have to take some precautions, but it works well. Thing is, it's not a universal method. It only works with woods that are heavy in tannins such as Mahogany, Oak, or Cherry. Maple will just laugh at the stuff.

Thanks, Cagey. I took a look at those threads. That stuff sounds nasty. Vinegaroon is made from vinegar and steel wool. It's no more toxic than vinegar or rust. It's the iron in it that turns the tannin color. All the vinegar does is dissolve the iron into solution. In fact, one professional leather worker I know just dips his leather in a steel drum of rusty water and gets the same result. If anyone is interested in experimenting with it, I can copy how to make vinegaroon and share it here.

With leathers that are void of tannins, you can soak them in a strong tea solution to put tannins in it. I can't say I'd want to do that to a good maple neck.

 

[stratamania]

Slightly off topic, but related to Tannins, and staining I ended up doing this to an ash body with tea. The build thread is here.

http://unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=23725.0

 

[rgand]

Slightly off topic, but related to Tannins, and staining I ended up doing this to an ash body with tea. The build thread is here.

http://unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=23725.0

That came out great. I like the subtle change you got with the tea. Looks good.

 

[stratamania]

Slightly off topic, but related to Tannins, and staining I ended up doing this to an ash body with tea. The build thread is here.

http://unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=23725.0

That came out great. I like the subtle change you got with the tea. Looks good.

Thanks, it's subtle and a little unusual. It should age gracefully.

 

[ZionWarmoth]

Here a couple of roasted maple necks I did with Warmoth a while ago

 

[Rick]

those are gorgeous!  What finish, if any, did you put on them? Wow, I'm even more sold. :headbang: