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vtpcnk

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while looking on the net for information related to fretwear i stumbled upon this :

I think my guitar is getting harder to play in some spots of the fret board. mostly around the position G and A. i think my frets are wearing down.

is this true? ie fretwear makes the guitar difficult to play? in what way?
 
The only reason I could think of for the playing to be difficult is if he had the action raised to remove dead spots. But I don't know who would do this because it's not fixing a problem, it's removing the problem with another problem  :icon_scratch:
 
Frets will wear with use.  Usually nothing needs to be done to the frets tha are wearing, instead the less used one need filing to match just to make things even.  Like mentioned above, raising action prevent a fretout or deadspots, but doesn't really fix anything.  Now your action is higher.
 
vtpcnk said:
"I think my guitar is getting harder to play in some spots of the fret board. mostly around the position G and A. i think my frets are wearing down."

Answer:

"Play something besides Cowboy Chords"

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vtpcnk said:
while looking on the net for information related to fretwear i stumbled upon this :

I think my guitar is getting harder to play in some spots of the fret board. mostly around the position G and A. i think my frets are wearing down.

is this true? ie fretwear makes the guitar difficult to play? in what way?

Frets will wear down after a while. My main acoustic is from 1971 and it hasn't been refretted, and it needs it. Some of my higher notes 'fret out'. That's when a part of the string is choked or partially stopped by a fret. It has a tell-tale rattle like a pinchy sound and the note doesn't ring out. My main electric is from 1996 and it seems to be doing fine, even though I've played tons of shows with it, and it's my main guitar. I just need to polish the frets, thanks for the reminder! So what I'm trying to say is, it's a matter of how much it effects that particular guitar. 

You ask, "In what way?" In your case, I'd suggest looking at your frets to see if there are any flat spots or divots...that will indicate fret wear in a particular position. All the frets should be level and evenly shaped. While the guitar is tuned, i'd check the neck for relief and then take a straight edge and rest it on the frets along the neck. This will show you clearly if any of your frets are worn lower than the frets next to it.

If the frets are uneven, certain chords and notes will be out of tune and more difficult to play.  Think of a road where the bricks are not level.
 
What can I say? I got hands like velvet...The touch...The Feel...The fabric of our lives...
 
Well, there are a bunch of keys, apparently.  I don't use 'em though, I just move this by a fret a day to keep fretwear even:

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Return of Guitlouie said:
You read something on the internet and assumed that it was accurate?
I think we all do from time to time, my proof being that we're on this forum  :laughing7:
 
rockskate4x said:
Return of Guitlouie said:
You read something on the internet and assumed that it was accurate?
I think we all do from time to time, my proof being that we're on this forum  :laughing7:

sometimes i do entire reports on info from wikipedia. then just use their sources at the bottom as my sources. i think my professors hate me.
 
Hahahahahaha.  (and...... Hooray  :sign13:  This is my 1000th post  :occasion14:  )
 
Back on topic.....

If you have fretwear, you'll see it.  You'll see either very flat fret-tops from bending, or grooves in the frets from pressing strings into them.  This "usually" occurs first at the low frets where we tend to play more.

I'm wonding if fret wear is the culprit... because... bad adjustment of the neck relief will also cause the same thing.  You can in fact, have the relief set such that the middle of the neck is high, then raise the action to accommodate that high middle... and its just terrible.

Try tuning to pitch - with the strings you normally use.  Changing string gauge/brands/winding WILL cause changes in relief.  Minor sometimes, major sometimes, but its always a change... even if only a few .001's of an inch.  So stick to one string type.  Get it tuned to pitch and stretched in.  Then check the relief against itself, lightly pressing fret 1 and fret 21 (or 22) at the same time.  Around fret 8 or so, you should get right about the thickness of a B string between the top of the fret and the bottom of the string.  Some folks like a little bit more - just a very little.  Some like a little less, but you have to have a very "light" touch to play buzz free with that sort of relief.  Just thickness of a B string, or a little more is about perfect for most folks.

Then set your string elevation, at fret 12 as follows - 3.5/64ths of an inch at the high E (and all the plain strings) - between the string and fret top.  Go 4/64 on the low E (and all the wound strings).  That should get you really close to a perfect setup.  You'll have to look REAL CLOSE with a magnifiying glass and a machinists ruler to get the spacing in 1/64 increments "just right".  Remember - its string bottom, not the middle of the string that gets set at those spacing... to the top of the fret.

If you do that, then we'll know if you got fret wear.
 
Can def. attest to fretwear. Have a couple of strat types that I used for nearly 20 yrs,on which the I've literally worn the hell out of the frets in a lot of places.Will eventually just get them re-fretted.
That said-for those of you with stainless frets-which Ive not tried yet-do they actually hold-up better ?
 
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