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First Electric Guitar. Warmoth or Brand guitar?

Speaking of used, there are certainly used Warmoths out there and they generally don't hold their value very well at all. Somebody spends $1500 building something that from Fender would have cost $3K and it'll sell for $700 w/ a case while it's still in like-new condition.
 
Cagey said:
Speaking of used, there are certainly used Warmoths out there and they generally don't hold their value very well at all. Somebody spends $1500 building something that from Fender would have cost $3K and it'll sell for $700 w/ a case while it's still in like-new condition.

Annnd....

Like A Scrotum... there it is in a nutshell.
 
Mayfly said:
Hi there,

I'd suggest you buy a brand name model for your first instrument.  Chances are that one of the following things will happen:

1 - a year into your playing you'll realize that you want a different neck/pickup/bridge/color.  Then you can sell the name brand instrument and move on to a different one.

2 - a year into your playing you'll get into cars/girls/electronics/DJ.  Then you can sell the name brand instrument and move on to a different passion

3 - A year into your playing you'll find that you're now into country/jam bands/banjo/bluegrass.  Then you can sell the name brand instrument and move on to a different one.

After a few years you'll really know what you want.  Then you may decide to build a custom instrument, and that could very well be a Warmoth.  But until then, stay with name brand stuff.  Because it'll be easier to sell down the road.

my $0.02

That's good advice. I've been playing for a couple of months now already. I understand what you mean with the third part however. I've been really interested in mandolins as well lately...
 
musicispeace said:
Welcome to the forum. I started playing guitar again after many years of having no interest and no guitars so I was sort of in a similar place as you are but for different circumstances. I had a similar budget. I bought a second hand name brand guitar which I warmed up to gradually over a couple of years. Again, remember I just woke up one day and felt I wanted to have a guitar again so my level of passion at the beginning was less than yours and it took some time. As I got more interested I was seriously looking at Ibanez guitars (both new and used) in my budget range. Although we are talking about different dollars I could have gotten a good pre-owned one for around $500-$600. For various reasons I just stuck with the Yamaha I had purchased. It was after that when I got interested in parts guitars. It took me a bit of time to start learning about parts and components so that I could decide what would make me happy. Then I had to find a competent person to assemble and set up the project because I am just now starting to dive into learning how to do at least some of my own work.

I don't think you need to put off considering a Warmoth for a large amount of time but I would agree with the suggestion of starting with a brand name guitar in good condition and stay within your budget and also network who could do a proper set up on it as that makes a huge difference in play-ability, reliability, and the physical sound of the guitar as a starting point for what you want to add to it. Then I would continue your research on parts and components. For any style of metal you are going to be pursuing a different  parts guitar than I was for blues. And it will help in making some of the important decisions like choosing a comfortable neck profile (thickness essentially) if you go through the experience of trying out some brand name guitars in shops and having one to work with for a few months. I think it will help you make decisions you'll feel more solid about with a Warmoth. It will also make a parts guitar more of a personal instrument as it should be.

For what it is worth (and remember guitars are very personal and subjective things so at the end of the day you have to go with what you know you feel strongly about) I personally think Ibanez has some good options and a number of metal players like them. I don't know what the price point is on Chapman guitars but I know he is a metal guy. Some of the lower end PRS guitars are assembled in Korea and then go through a serious set up and inspection in the US before they are shipped for sale. But I think its great that you are interested in the electric guitar. If you remember it is a path in life and your experience with it is singularly yours it can feel rewarding as you progress.  I would also add that remember that recorded guitar is a sound that has been through many hands and processes and live guitar has some differences but also comes the most from the heart. (IMO) And I would not get too hung up on selecting what wood for the guitar body when you get to looking at a Warmoth, I agree with those who feel the neck and pick ups have a more direct impact on the instrument. The Soloist, Switchback, Diamondback, Iceman, Z body, Regal, WGD would all fit a metal oriented guitar. They even have a 7 string body option if that turns out to interest you. As there are people who play metal with Telecasters and people playing country with a Les Paul just be creative with whatever you do get together. As stated, its your own path.

Very interesting and thoughtful advice. I've been looking at some of the PRS SE's as a started guitar and they seem like a type of guitar that would suit what I would like. I guess I'll wait a bit and see where my preferences take me later on.
 
Geekydad said:
First electric guitar? Get a Squier or other inexpensive, mid-range brand. You'll be needing your money for amps, pedals, etc.

Get your Warmoth once you've played a lot of guitar, and a lot of other guitars, and know what you're looking for. You'll appreciate it more, and there's less chance, sometime down the road, of feeling like you bought a lemon.

I'm actually considering getting an Audio Interface. Just, as a beginner, because amps cost a lot.
 
Axkoa said:
I'm actually considering getting an Audio Interface. Just, as a beginner, because amps cost a lot.
You may want to cruise through pawn shops to find a good practice amp at a reasonable price when you're ready to get one.
 
slashin_velvet said:
Also worth noting that the value of the AUD at the moment is pretty poor, so you're paying a 30% premium on a warmoth that you wouldnt have paid 18 months ago. Whereas shops are still carrying stock they bought a while ago, and have to keep it relative to the AUD RRP.

I'd be going for branded first. Used or new, but shop around.

That's true about the Australia Dollar. I think it would be better for me to wait a couple of years to buy overseas guitars and see how the Australian dollar goes.
 
rgand said:
Axkoa said:
I'm actually considering getting an Audio Interface. Just, as a beginner, because amps cost a lot.
You may want to cruise through pawn shops to find a good practice amp at a reasonable price when you're ready to get one.

What brands should I be looked for?
 
Axkoa said:
rgand said:
Axkoa said:
I'm actually considering getting an Audio Interface. Just, as a beginner, because amps cost a lot.
You may want to cruise through pawn shops to find a good practice amp at a reasonable price when you're ready to get one.

What brands should I be looked for?
My preference is Peavey for a good practice amp, perhaps a Rage 158 or Blazer 158 (15 watts, 8" speaker). There are a lot of good ones, though. Fender & Marshall come to mind. I'm sure others can advise you on this, too. The best is to read reviews online for different amps to know what people like/dislike about them. Look on ebay and then do a search for reviews.
 
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