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Fender Looses

TroubledTreble

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They tried to stop others from using the shapes of some of their guitars. They loose, thankfully.


http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91161403&pty=OPP&eno=246

Edit* Link fixed
 
Very interesting indeed.  It seems that Fender's various legal teams really dropped the ball since day one....straight up through that legal proceeding.

Readers Digest version:
- They never properly attempted to trademark the body styles until it was WAY too late (2003)

- The style had fallen well into the legal definition of "Generic", given current numerous precedents.
        - “Cases addressing product design suggest that the term ‘genericness’ covers three situations:
            (1) if the definition of a product design is overbroad or too generalized;
            (2) if a product design is the basic form of a type of product; or
            (3) if the product design is so common in the industry that it cannot be said to identify aparticular source”.

- They protected the headstocks specifically.
        - 1990 - Fender, Squier, Sunn, Frontline,Stratocaster...and the head profiles of F.M.I.C.’s classic guitars and basses...are all trademarks of FMIC (McDonald Test. Exh. No. A-148 FMIC000005); (Excerpt from Fenders own catalog)


- Their trademark application was too generic
     - It would have been detrimental to WAY too many well established businesses.
     - It would be fostering a monopoly
          - "Further, “[c]ourts exercise ‘particular caution’ when extending protection to product designs because such claims present an acute risk of stifling competition.”"

- Their case study was biased and flawed
     - Exclusion of non guitarists
     - Misleading wording
 
Blue - were you a lawyer in a previous life?  I could not get through the first page of that!
 
I'm no attorney, but I'm decent with legalese.  But......I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.  :tard:
 
TroubledTreble said:
Blue313 said:
But......I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.   :tard:

OMFG!   Nice    :laughing11:

I've never seen anyone pull that one out yet. Nicely done.

ok - i admit that I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
 
Blue313 said:
Readers Digest version:
- They never properly attempted to trademark the body styles until it was WAY too late (2003)

About 40+ years too late.  :doh:  Warmoth was included in that lawsuit? I thought they had a fender license. :icon_scratch:
 
Their license covers the headstock.  It appears to be the only thing Fender cared about up until 2003.  :laughing7:
 
Super Turbo Deluxe Custom said:
mayfly said:
ok - i admit that I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

It's a line form a commercial where the premise is that staying in a Holiday Inn Express makes you smarter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dOHEw8izno
 
yeh Fender dropped the ball a long time ago, by not getting a trademark on the body style, so anyone can and does copy the body all day long, just gotta change the headstock a bit and your fine
 
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