Avid Eleven

[swarfrat]

I know there's another thread, but that one is a lot more generic and philosophical. I've been recording with the Zoom R24 a week or two now and it's got me rethinking my tube snobbery. Not that they're not fun,  but when you combine 1) I can't ever crank it, and 2) even if I can,  I can't seem to get that on "tape", it kinda becomes a much more practical pursuit.

I've got a dialed back MsCrunch tweaked for my JTM45 sounds and similar with a bit more gain for JCM800 sounds. I'm finding some compression helps with "sounding like it's played loud". Not just overall volume. I'd actually like to try some mild compression AFTER distortion for more touch sensitive crunch, but the Zoom won't give me a routing that will support that.

So I gets to thinking about the Eleven and the "Buy it for ProTools and dump the Eleven on ebay" sales.  I took a peek at the manual, and it doesn't look like the Eleven supports ANY dynamic effects. Just amp/cabinet/mic modelling. Is that correct? It's a tad dissapointing if so. I had hopes of it being an complete solution. Which, it could be, since I usually don't play with effects.  Anyone have any direct experience with the Eleven?

 

[SustainerPlayer]

The effects are listed at page 27 in the manual: http://akmedia.digidesign.com/support/docs/Eleven_Rack_User_Guide_v801_62404.pdf

There are a couple more in the expansion pack as well.

 

[swarfrat]

Ah, I must've been looking at something a lot briefer. Hmmm.

 

[Cagey]

The 11 rack is a nice piece. It's the only unit Cliff Chase (owner/designer of Fractal Audio's AxeFx) thinks has any redeeming value, which is no small endorsement. I have one here, and have to agree with him. It doesn't have as much variablity/programmability as an Axe, but it's a pretty high-quality unit. Certainly recording class. For what you can get one for, I don't know why anyone buys pedals other than you ultimately need a MIDI board to control it if you want to use it live.

I also have a Ground Control Pro MIDI controller that's programmed specifically for the 11 Rack.

If you're interested, I'll sell the pair for $600, or $300 for either unit. That's less than they're going for on eBay.

I already have an Axe Fx and an MFC-101, so I don't need these units. I got them as a package with Pro Tools 11.

 

[swarfrat]

I just recently identified that I might care about this thing. It's not on "The Studio Master Plan". There aren't many pieces remaining on TSMP but all that stuff comes out of the "fun money" budget category, and it dribbles in a little bit every month.  Maybe with my Christmas money.  The front panel knobs still work right? I normally don't use anything but a tuner.

 

[Cagey]

This unit has no time on it and it has never been out of a smoke-free/kid-free/pet-free house. So, yeah. Everything works. For all intents and purposes, it's new-in-box. I racked it to power it up and test it, and that's it. I just don't see me using it, so it's gotta go.

My original intent was for it to fit into "The Studio Master Plan", too. It offloads a lot of processing duties from the DAW, which is no small thing. But, as I mentioned earlier, I have an Axe Fx II, so I can do that sort of thing anyway.

 

[AutoBat]

Cagey, does your Eleven Rack & Ground Control Pro have Pro Tools to go with it?

 

[Cagey]

Not really. I mean, they came with it, but that's the part I'm keeping.