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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/27/chile-earthquake-pacific-tsunami

Another earthquake.  This time in chile.

at 8.8 and only 120 people reported dead it really shows a gap in preparedness for these kinds of events when you look at haiti.  7.0 and over a quarter million dead, whereas here at 8.8 the only really big thing htat happened was one freeway that kind of fell apart, those pictures are unreal.

All you guys in Hawaii, P.I., the Marianas, and Samoa stay safe.

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Bad news for Chile.  I hope there aren't many hurt or worse.

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As the guy said on TV this morning.... "Clearly this is a sign that man made global climate change has got to be reversed.  The planet is punishing us for what we've done......" (I paraphrased him, but its pretty close to the quote)

Folks I fib not, right on NBC this morning.

I think I want to punish the planet some more.  In fact, I think I'll order up another Warmoth body real soon, just to waste another innocent tree's life on my own pursuit of hedonistic pleasure.

Pass the Drambuie... its a long way till November
 
=CB= said:
As the guy said on TV this morning.... "Clearly this is a sign that man made global climate change has got to be reversed.  The planet is punishing us for what we've done......" (I paraphrased him, but its pretty close to the quote)
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Well, then the guy on TV is a bit of a dummy ....
Earthquakes have to do with the movements of the tectonic plates, and have nothing to do with the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.  These movements have been going on since the planet was created, and will continue until this planet dies .... with or without human intervention.
 
The lack of reinforced concrete in pretty much every edifice in Haiti hurt them a lot.  It started shaking and just crumbled into nothing.  That stuff wasn't safe even without an earthquake.

I'm glad to hear that the devastation wasn't as bad in Chile.

CB,

My favorite part of all that nonsense has been the switch from Man Made Global Warming to Man Made Global Climate Change when places all over the place are getting record low temperatures.  We had snow in the southern half of Texas that stuck this week.  We haven't had snow that stuck in any appreciable amount (a few times it would when the wind would blow it up against a fence in a pile) since I was four.  Now we've had it three or four times in the last two years and it's never been this late.  The ten year cooling period we've been in really throws a wrench in the global warming stuff.
 
Lucky #007 said:
The ten year cooling period we've been in really throws a wrench in the global warming stuff.
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Not to mention all the evidence they've found recently of so-called scientists just um... making up tons of data.  Plus the fact that if you compare temperature data with data on solar activity, it lines up perfectly.  The sun has been acting pretty weird for a while now.  If they really want alternative energy, I can think of a bunch of way better reasons to push it than this climate change crap.

But man, 8.8!  That's freaking crazy.  It's lucky they were prepared for something like that.  If that hit San Fransisco, the whole city would be swallowed by the earth. 

Fingers crossed the tsunamis aren't that bad. 
 
=CB= said:
Bad news for Chile.  I hope there aren't many hurt or worse.

As the guy said on TV this morning.... "Clearly this is a sign that man made global climate change has got to be reversed.  The planet is punishing us for what we've done......" (I paraphrased him, but its pretty close to the quote)
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Man, i feel really bad for those people, all these terrible tragedies tend to happen in the worst places that aren't prepared for them.....i have to say i don't think it'll be long before we see an empty serenity out west in america called Arizona Bay.
i certainly hope not, just all you people who live in earthquake hot zones be on alert and be careful, and if nothing else....Learn to swim.

stay safe everyone, best regards.
 
hannaugh said:
Lucky #007 said:
The ten year cooling period we've been in really throws a wrench in the global warming stuff.
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The sun has been acting pretty weird for a while now.
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Actually, Hannaugh, as a radioman, and FCC licensee (commercial, avionics, medical, ship-to-shore, merchant ship, etc), I make it a point to study the activity of the sun.  Not weird, just... that its period (of greater activity with sunspots, flares, etc) is late.  Many of us are operating under the notion that when she blows, its gonna be a doozie.  We just dont have enough historic data to make any sort of meaningful prediction though... so the "doozie" camp may be full of prunes. 
 
Tsunami alert on East Coast of Australia, Sunday morning our time.

Sad to see loss of life in Chile, but thankfully it looks a lot less damage than Haiti (could there be worse?).

Re: Climate Change/ Global Warming issue. I know a very small amount of the required science theory to be in a position to have an opinion of any worth..... but judging the comments from many so-called experts, they appear just as bad at making a logical assessment. To the extent of what I know, there's little to support the view that earthquakes are/can be caused by human habitation or the modern industrial world. Earthquakes are geological events, little to do with what humans are supposedly to be doing to the earth (smog, global atmospheric pollution etc.) on it's surface or it's atmosphere.

I do suspect though, that any climate change or weird weather is more cyclical in the context of the long history of our planet, than human cause. And  I also get the impression, that any effort we make to tone down the extremities of any said climate change would be miniscule, even if we resorted to radical measures to arrest the CO2 output.
 
Be aware the earthquake in Haiti occured in Port au Prince, their principle city.  The nearest major city in Chile to the epicenter is Concepcion, not their largest city.

My wife is involved in international logistics for WorldVision.  They've been pretty slammed recently.  There was also an earthquake in Okinawa a few days ago.

If you're interested, here's a link to her personal blog.  She doesn't update it all the time, but it is an interesting read about things most of us will never see or hear about.  http://thedryereatsmysocks.blogspot.com/
 
=CB= said:
hannaugh said:
Lucky #007 said:
The ten year cooling period we've been in really throws a wrench in the global warming stuff.
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The sun has been acting pretty weird for a while now.
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Actually, Hannaugh, as a radioman, and FCC licensee (commercial, avionics, medical, ship-to-shore, merchant ship, etc), I make it a point to study the activity of the sun.  Not weird, just... that its period (of greater activity with sunspots, flares, etc) is late.  Many of us are operating under the notion that when she blows, its gonna be a doozie.  We just dont have enough historic data to make any sort of meaningful prediction though... so the "doozie" camp may be full of prunes. 
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Yeah, my uncle is obsessed with outer space.  I think his home page is a solar activity monitoring website.  He thinks we're going to repeat the climate we saw during the Little Ice Age because of the lack of activity, followed by some insane heat waves.  But then again, he is kind of an alarmist.  I was more going off what I learned in my atmosphere class.
 
If your uncle is right, we better start digging up coal and drilling for oil and natural gas like crazy because its gonna be cold for a long time.  Europe experienced a very extensive cold period between the mid-to-late1500s through about 1850.  If we are to experience a similar phenomon, then it may be a while before we see any heat waves!  Even a cool Maunder Minimum-like period of low sunspot activity can last a while (the Maunder lasted 70 years - from about 1645 to 1715.)
 
That's what he says, we need to start tapping all that oil shale because if we don't, we're all going to freeze.  Who knows if it's really going to get that bad though, I mean nobody can really say. 
 
Thing with Santiago vs Port au Prince... the real thing... Santiago was 8.8 while Port au Prince was "only" 7.0 - huge major magnitude difference.  So why the destruction in Haiti?  Basically, the Haitians.  Poor building codes, and even those codes not met.  Or shoddy workmanship when trying to meet codes.  Corrupt building officials, sub standard materials being used.  You name it, they did it.  Chile on the other hand has had a long history of earth quakes, and is about as well prepared as say... San Fransisco.... with similar codes and higher quality inspection.
 
I'm just a geetar player, not a scientist, nor a politician.  I realize that earthquakes are not caused by global warming, nor climate change.  But I wonder, why are the glaciers melting? 
 
Wyliee said:
Be aware the earthquake in Haiti occured in Port au Prince, their principle city.  The nearest major city in Chile to the epicenter is Concepcion, not their largest city.

My wife is involved in international logistics for WorldVision.  They've been pretty slammed recently.  There was also an earthquake in Okinawa a few days ago.

If you're interested, here's a link to her personal blog.  She doesn't update it all the time, but it is an interesting read about things most of us will never see or hear about.  http://thedryereatsmysocks.blogspot.com/
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We were getting hit with calls early this morning, & watching live feeds to see if Hawaii was gonna get hit hard as well.

Gracefully, Hawaii was spared devastation, but we're anticipating a very busy few weeks coming up in the contact center.
 
there's scientific proof that temperature fluctuations have existed for millions of years. i'm not a strong believer in global warming. have we hurt the ozone layer and damaged the planet? absolutely. BUT we also had record snowfall this year where i am, and we're not done yet this year. i think the last "ice age" was around 2000 years ago. maybe a little more/little less. so i would expect us to be experiencing an up-swing in average temperatures.

and in all honesty, i'm ok with that  :icon_biggrin:  i saw my yard today for the first time since about christmas.

obviously some faults are moving between north and south america, causing some seriously scary earthquakes. not good news for anybody there, and i hope it's over for a while. my thoughts are definitely with people who were affected!
 
Australia was spared any tsunami damage, came in but it was very weak. Barely 20cm rise. Still, good to see that the alert system in the Pacific was working.

Agree that Chile earthquake much less damage than Haiti, and possibly due to Chileans past bad experience with them and boosting up their construction codes etc. Chile, it seems, had a mighty big one in 1960, and that caused a rethink on the way they built things. So they've had a long history now (50 years) of having stronger buildings and infrastructure built.

Also heard on TV that this quake was quite deep into the earth's surface, whereas the Haiti earthquake was much closer to surface - maybe that could have aggravated the damge in Haiti too?
 
JaySwear said:
obviously some faults are moving between north and south america, causing some seriously scary earthquakes.
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Thats why they call it the ring of fire... the whole Pacific rim is like that.  Alaska to California, to Mexico, to Panama to Tierra del Fuego*.  Same for the western side of the Pacific from Russia to Oz.

*"Ralph... can I get Duluth?  Duluth, Bucko, you can get Tierra del Fuego!"
 
=CB= said:
As the guy said on TV this morning.... "Clearly this is a sign that man made global climate change has got to be reversed.  The planet is punishing us for what we've done......" (I paraphrased him, but its pretty close to the quote)

Folks I fib not, right on NBC this morning.
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Well, perhaps the planet is actually punishing bloviating, touchy-feely dumbasses like the above for making false claims about "man-made global climate change"?   :laughing7:

Really, the fact he used the term "punishing" - treating the Earth like an angry, displeased individual or perhaps a "god" - speaks volumes about the psychoses of his kind.

These people should not be listened to at all due to their fractured mentality - they are, quite literally, sick in the head.
 
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