59 jazz hybrid. In the bridge!???

[Archie Macfarlane]

Hey i was wondering..

so when you google seymour duncan 59/custom hybrid commonly people on the duncan forums recommend a pickup called a 59/jazz hybrid paired in the neck, and i was wondering if anyone had tried this pickup in the bridge of their guitar and if they tried out different magnets with it eg: alnico 8

Fyi this is not a production pick up you build it out of 1 coil from a 59 and one from a jazz

 

[Cagey]

The '59 and the Jazz both use the same (alnico 5) magnets, so if you change that you'll affect both coils the same amount. At the same time, changing the magnet means neither coil will behave the way it did in its original design package, so it'll no longer be a 59/Jazz hybrid. It'll just be a PAF-style noiseless pickup with unbalanced coils. Not at all uncommon - what we're describing is a garden-variety humbucker that China makes thousands of every day, and you can get them for somewhere between free and very cheap depending where you go to find them. Not because they'll sound/smell/look bad or have some kinda ancient oriental curse on them, but because they won't fit into anybody's preconceived notion of what a good pickup design is.

On the plus side, it'll say "Seymour Duncan" on it, so that'll give it some street cred. Plus, it'll probably sound pretty good even if it's not what you're looking for. Finally, you'll have paid a good chunk of money for it so you'll like it, too  :laughing7:

 

[BigSteve22]

Finally, you'll have paid a good chunk of money for it so you'll like it, too  :laughing7:

Dude, that's brutal. Absolutely true, but brutal none the less.....

:icon_jokercolor:

 

[Cagey]

I think it's a form of confirmation bias. We're all guilty of it from time to time with different things, but I see it a lot with pickup choices. Somebody tells you nothing sounds better than a Kinman (or a Lollar or a Bareknuckle), but whaddaya expect him to say? He just took out a second mortgage on his house to get a set  :laughing7:

 

[BigSteve22]

Wait just a minute there! Are you trying to say that my P-Rails and SD-Stacks don't have secret, magic, mojo???

:laughing11: :laughing3: :laughing7:

 

[Cagey]

They're the best! Numbah one! 5 dolla no holla!

 

[new-killer-star]

Honestly folks need to do more blind A/B testing to help with this.... it is so hard.

 

[rgand]

Wait just a minute there! Are you trying to say that my P-Rails and SD-Stacks don't have secret, magic, mojo???

:laughing11: :laughing3: :laughing7:

Shazam, I have to change pickups already? I don't even have the thing done yet. :laughing11:

 

[Logrinn]

Honestly folks need to do more blind A/B testing to help with this.... it is so hard.

Well ... the thing about A/B tests is that there's still someone playing. So when you hear/see one of these tests and decide that pickup B sounds way better than pickup A, and you go out and buy pickup B, only to find that it doesn't sound anything like it did in the A/B test.
Because it is now being played by you (ie not the one doing the A/B test) on another guitar with another amp and perhaps another set of pedals.

So what to do?
I think the best thing is getting your hands on different pickups and decide for yourself.

And why not surprise yourself? Try a brand or type that you didn't necessarily think about getting in the first place. They might be just what you were looking for.
(And then again - it could be the psychological thing Cagey talks about - "I bought this pickup, of course it'll sound killer") :icon_biggrin: :icon_biggrin: :icon_biggrin:

 

[Archie Macfarlane]

So no ones tried it in the bridge then?    :toothy12:     

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

The '59 and the Jazz both use the same (alnico 5) magnets, so if you change that you'll affect both coils the same amount. At the same time, changing the magnet means neither coil will behave the way it did in its original design package, so it'll no longer be a 59/Jazz hybrid. It'll just be a PAF-style noiseless pickup with unbalanced coils. Not at all uncommon - what we're describing is a garden-variety humbucker that China makes thousands of every day, and you can get them for somewhere between free and very cheap depending where you go to find them. Not because they'll sound/smell/look bad or have some kinda ancient oriental curse on them, but because they won't fit into anybody's preconceived notion of what a good pickup design is.

On the plus side, it'll say "Seymour Duncan" on it, so that'll give it some street cred. Plus, it'll probably sound pretty good even if it's not what you're looking for. Finally, you'll have paid a good chunk of money for it so you'll like it, too  :laughing7:

You might find something similarly marketed available through GFS too.
could save you the work of doing the job yourself & you can just a find a pickup that fits the bill & you just solder it in your axe.

 

[Cagey]

So no ones tried it in the bridge then?    :toothy12:   

I did not try it in the bridge.
I did not try it in the fridge.
I would not try one in a jam.
I do not like them, Sam I am!

:icon_biggrin:

Just kidding. Sounds like nobody's taken the plunge.

 

[stratamania]

I do not like Green Eggs and Ham

 

[Cagey]

I had blue eggs once at some fancy oriental restaurant that served all sorts of things you wouldn't normally think you should eat. They come from robins...

There were hard-boiled, and as it turns out, it's just the shells that are blue. Don't know why. Anyway, they look/taste just like chicken eggs, but much smaller.

 

[stratamania]

Cool, that robin looks quite different to the robins I see in the garden here in England.  Though of course it has similarities.

Anyway on the eggs I have had eggs with different coloured shells, I had some Cotswold Legbar eggs from the supermarket recently that have a bluish shell. The Cotswold Legbar is a variety of hen.

I've never seen a green shell yet ...

 

[Fat Pete]

...I've never seen a green shell yet ...

:turtle: